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Patricia A. Shaffer  
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 Más opciones 10 abr 2006, 08:34
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De: Patricia A. Shaffer <ra...@pemtel.net>
Fecha: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 09:34:27 -0400
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Asunto: Re: The Rizler Syndrome

We have a proposal for The "Rizler Syndrome" to be inserted under Rule
#3:

"Under threat of jail time, a spammer's stupidity tends to expand
exponentially until jail time is assured."

Concurrent with the acceptance of "Rizler Syndrome" it is suggested
that those who keep or maintain jargon files should add a new phrase:
"Puttin' on the Riz": any act of making a prosecution or prison
sentence even worse by compounding the crime in a really stupid way.

If there is no further discussion, may we have a motion the proposal
be accepted?  

The Rules-Keeper
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Angel  
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 Más opciones 10 abr 2006, 10:43
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Fecha: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:43:36 -0000
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Asunto: Re: The Rizler Syndrome
On 2006-04-10, Patricia A  Shaffer <ra...@pemtel.net> wrote:

> We have a proposal for The "Rizler Syndrome" to be inserted under Rule
> #3:

> "Under threat of jail time, a spammer's stupidity tends to expand
> exponentially until jail time is assured."

Added as a proposal to my copy of the Rules of Spam:
http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/rulesofspam.shtml

> Concurrent with the acceptance of "Rizler Syndrome" it is suggested
> that those who keep or maintain jargon files should add a new phrase:
> "Puttin' on the Riz": any act of making a prosecution or prison
> sentence even worse by compounding the crime in a really stupid way.

Added in slightly different phrased form to the Cliche Bingo:
http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/clichebingo.txt

> If there is no further discussion, may we have a motion the proposal
> be accepted?  

I'm all for it. ^^

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 Más opciones 10 abr 2006, 11:26
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Substitute for "spammer" in the definition: "spammer or politician" viz.
Cynthia McKinney.

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 Más opciones 10 abr 2006, 11:55
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Asunto: Re: The Rizler Syndrome

Patricia A. Shaffer wrote:
>We have a proposal for The "Rizler Syndrome" to be inserted under Rule
>#3:

>"Under threat of jail time, a spammer's stupidity tends to expand
>exponentially until jail time is assured."

Not very much like what I first proposed that kicked off the whole
thing.  But better than nothing.  Even with this I would still like to
see a subset of Rule #4: the tendancy for spammers is to go to jail.  
That and this are in fact two different factors with the same result.

>Concurrent with the acceptance of "Rizler Syndrome" it is suggested
>that those who keep or maintain jargon files should add a new phrase:
>"Puttin' on the Riz": any act of making a prosecution or prison
>sentence even worse by compounding the crime in a really stupid way.

Yea!  :)

>If there is no further discussion, may we have a motion the proposal
>be accepted?  

Shouldn't we adjourn for 2 weeks vacation first, while blaming everyone
else for not voting?

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Patricia A. Shaffer  
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 Más opciones 10 abr 2006, 12:37
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Asunto: Re: The Rizler Syndrome
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:26:29 -0500, "HeyBub" <heybubNOS...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Darn, I'd love to, but I'm not in charge of the Rules of Politics.
That's a whole 'nother can of worms ... but, if she spams, she's
covered!

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Angel <angel+n...@spamcop.net> wrote in
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And seconded.

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Jessie C  
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 Más opciones 11 abr 2006, 04:15
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Asunto: Re: The Rizler Syndrome

On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 09:34:27 -0400, Patricia A. Shaffer wrote:
> If there is no further discussion, may we have a motion the proposal
> be accepted?

Aye!

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 Más opciones 11 abr 2006, 01:30
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Jessie C wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 09:34:27 -0400, Patricia A. Shaffer wrote:
>> If there is no further discussion, may we have a motion the proposal
>> be accepted?

> Aye!

'ere!

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Patricia A. Shaffer  
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 Más opciones 11 abr 2006, 08:42
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Asunto: Re: The Rizler Syndrome
On 10 Apr 2006 18:00:49 GMT, Morely Dotes

Then, the proposalhaving been moved and seconded, I call for the vote.

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 Más opciones 11 abr 2006, 08:55
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Asunto: Re: The Rizler Syndrome
In article <pan.2006.04.11.09.15.41.18...@nospam.invalid>,
Jessie C  <mun...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 09:34:27 -0400, Patricia A. Shaffer wrote:

>> If there is no further discussion, may we have a motion the proposal
>> be accepted?

>Aye!

Jay!  (or Bee!, depending on pronunciation of the original :)

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Seth Breidbart  
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 Más opciones 11 abr 2006, 14:07
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Asunto: Re: The Rizler Syndrome
In article <agcn32p0cuqcsvk4pbmccpdrctefbfs...@4ax.com>,
Patricia A. Shaffer  <ra...@pemtel.net> wrote:

>>> On 2006-04-10, Patricia A  Shaffer <ra...@pemtel.net> wrote:
>>>> We have a proposal for The "Rizler Syndrome" to be inserted under Rule
>>>> #3:

>>>> "Under threat of jail time, a spammer's stupidity tends to expand
>>>> exponentially until jail time is assured."
>Then, the proposalhaving been moved and seconded, I call for the vote.

Aye.

Seth


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Fecha: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:34:30 -0600
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Asunto: Re: The Rizler Syndrome

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:42:32 -0400, Patricia A. Shaffer wrote:
> On 10 Apr 2006 18:00:49 GMT, Morely Dotes
> <morelydo...@spamblocked.com> wrote:

>> [quoted text muted]

> Then, the proposalhaving been moved and seconded, I call for the vote.

> The Rules-Keeper

Sure, why not?

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"Patricia A. Shaffer" <ra...@pemtel.net> wrote in message
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> Then, the proposalhaving been moved and seconded, I call for the
> vote.

Don't know if I'm *eligible* to vote, but if I am...Aye.

Beverly


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Patricia A. Shaffer <ra...@pemtel.net> wrote in
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> Then, the proposalhaving been moved and seconded, I call for the vote.

Hang the bastiches!

Oh, you meant on the proposal.

Aye!

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BEI Design wrote:
> "Patricia A. Shaffer" <ra...@pemtel.net> wrote...
>> Then, the proposalhaving been moved and seconded, I call for the
>> vote.

> Don't know if I'm *eligible* to vote, but if I am...Aye.

You're as eligible as I am, and I vote the same way.

I can just picture Peter Boyle in full regalia...

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Morely Dotes  
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"BEI Design" <nobeidesigns...@comcast.net.invalid> wrote in news:48-
dnbvDb71ZlKHZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdn...@comcast.com:

> "Patricia A. Shaffer" <ra...@pemtel.net> wrote in message
> news:agcn32p0cuqcsvk4pbmccpdrctefbfsopd@4ax.com...

>> Then, the proposalhaving been moved and seconded, I call for the
>> vote.

> Don't know if I'm *eligible* to vote, but if I am...Aye.

If you're not then none of tinu are.

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"Morely Dotes" <morelydo...@spamblocked.com> wrote in message

news:Xns97A29BF906F21morelydotesspamblock@216.99.211.247...

> "BEI Design" <nobeidesigns...@comcast.net.invalid> wrote in news:48-
> dnbvDb71ZlKHZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdn...@comcast.com:

>> "Patricia A. Shaffer" <ra...@pemtel.net> wrote in message
>> news:agcn32p0cuqcsvk4pbmccpdrctefbfsopd@4ax.com...

>>> Then, the proposalhaving been moved and seconded, I call for the
>>> vote.

>> Don't know if I'm *eligible* to vote, but if I am...Aye.

> If you're not then none of tinu are.

That's very kind of you.  I just worried about "voter fraud", since
I'm not an admin (or anything close).  ;-)

B


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Asunto: Re: The Rizler Syndrome
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:40:25 -0700, "BEI Design"

Oh, goodness, voting is for everyone in Nanae, even the trolls and the
killfiled, though I'm not likely to see their votes. <g> I'm just an
end-user, myself, and the only system I "admin" is my own ...

Whilst perusing the morning's quarantines in Postini, I note that some
entity calling itself "Kadaitchka" (I'm not sure if I've spelled that
right, but it's close) sent me an obscene email message claiming that
nanae belonged to it ... (silly entity: Nanae belongs to Fluffy and is
overseen by The Sheik!)

At any rate, I suppose that it might be considered a "Nay" vote, and
being fair-minded, I shall so record it, though I'm not going to
release the message from quarrantine to archive it, nor am I stupid
enough to visit the website that was listed. [http stuff] +
xp-crack.kadaitcha.cx ...

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Asunto: Re: The Rizler Syndrome

Patricia A. Shaffer wrote:
>Whilst perusing the morning's quarantines in Postini, I note that some
>entity calling itself "Kadaitchka" (I'm not sure if I've spelled that
>right, but it's close) sent me an obscene email message claiming that
>nanae belonged to it ... (silly entity: Nanae belongs to Fluffy and is
>overseen by The Sheik!)

>At any rate, I suppose that it might be considered a "Nay" vote,

He's more like a pregnant chad.

>and
>being fair-minded, I shall so record it, though I'm not going to
>release the message from quarrantine to archive it, nor am I stupid
>enough to visit the website that was listed. [http stuff] +
>xp-crack.kadaitcha.cx ...

If that guy had a brane it would rattle, and fall out his ear.

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Patricia A. Shaffer <ra...@pemtel.net> wrote in
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> Whilst perusing the morning's quarantines in Postini, I note that some
> entity calling itself "Kadaitchka" (I'm not sure if I've spelled that
> right, but it's close) sent me an obscene email message claiming that
> nanae belonged to it ... (silly entity: Nanae belongs to Fluffy and is
> overseen by The Sheik!)

Please forward that spam to BIG PIPE's and THEPLANET's abuse admins, and
pir...@microsoft.com - he's advertising cracked XP.

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Patricia A. Shaffer  
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De: Patricia A. Shaffer <ra...@pemtel.net>
Fecha: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:57:07 -0400
Local: Mié 12 abr 2006 16:57
Asunto: Re: The Rizler Syndrome
On 12 Apr 2006 18:00:32 GMT, Morely Dotes

<morelydo...@spamblocked.com> wrote:
>Patricia A. Shaffer <ra...@pemtel.net> wrote in
>news:o9tp329rp2cg5ivl9072h78giorjstjh4b@4ax.com:

>> Whilst perusing the morning's quarantines in Postini, I note that some
>> entity calling itself "Kadaitchka" (I'm not sure if I've spelled that
>> right, but it's close) sent me an obscene email message claiming that
>> nanae belonged to it ... (silly entity: Nanae belongs to Fluffy and is
>> overseen by The Sheik!)

>Please forward that spam to BIG PIPE's and THEPLANET's abuse admins, and
>pir...@microsoft.com - he's advertising cracked XP.

And you took him at his word?  I thought it far more likely that the
site would force feed one a nasty ... why would I need a "cracked"
version of XP anyway? ;^>

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Fecha: 13 Apr 2006 00:00:32 GMT
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Asunto: Re: The Rizler Syndrome
Patricia A. Shaffer <ra...@pemtel.net> wrote in
news:lmtq3290jaso3ui9bj55lrppgdiiib63h1@4ax.com:

Actually, under the DMCA, merely offering a cracked software product, *even
if the seller ahs no intention of delivering it* is a criminal act.

So I didn't visit the site - I jsut advised pir...@microsoft.com to have a
look.

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Fecha: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 02:50:41 GMT
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Asunto: Re: The Rizler Syndrome

You are so right, why get a 'cracked" version from "it", when you can get an
original "cracked" verision from the original "IT" Microsoft! Hmm is there
any difference between 'cracked" and "borken"?

Larry

Unfortunately I have a very borken XP Home version on one of my machines,
but I don't control the money at this house any more, actually never did! My
Win 2000 Pro comes kinda close to an operating system, but that's because it
sits beside my Red Hat Linux machine.


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Local: Mié 12 abr 2006 22:58
Asunto: Re: The Rizler Syndrome

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 02:50:41 GMT, Larry wrote:
>Patricia A. Shaffer wrote:

>> And you took him at his word?  I thought it far more likely that the
>> site would force feed one a nasty ... why would I need a "cracked"
>> version of XP anyway? ;^>

>You are so right, why get a 'cracked" version from "it", when you can get an
>original "cracked" verision from the original "IT" Microsoft! Hmm is there
>any difference between 'cracked" and "borken"?

>Larry

>Unfortunately I have a very borken XP Home version on one of my machines,

                        ^^^^ ^^^^^^

  You misspelled "Working as Designed."

  "XP" stands for experience, because experience is what you get when you didn't
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Fecha: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 06:59:07 GMT
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Asunto: Re: The Rizler Syndrome
On 13 Apr 2006 00:00:32 GMT, Morely Dotes

<morelydo...@spamblocked.com> wrote:
>> And you took him at his word?  I thought it far more likely that the
>> site would force feed one a nasty ... why would I need a "cracked"
>> version of XP anyway? ;^>

>Actually, under the DMCA, merely offering a cracked software product, *even
>if the seller ahs no intention of delivering it* is a criminal act.

>So I didn't visit the site - I jsut advised pir...@microsoft.com to have a
>look.

Something I thought of several years ago with the ever
rising cost and frequency of new versions of software is
actually happening now, will we now see more spam claiming
to be for second-hand Microsoft software licences.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/04/12/secondhand_ms_licences/

Users turn to second-hand Microsoft licences

One careful owner
By OUT-LAW.COMPublished Wednesday 12th April 2006 10:59 GMT

Sales of second-hand Microsoft software licences have
doubled month-on-month since the market was opened in
November 2005, according to the Staffordshire start-up that
spotted the opportunity in Microsoft's small print and
Britain's insolvency laws.

Discount-licensing.com, the trading name of Disclic Ltd,
offers cost savings of 20–50 per cent on licences for older
versions of Microsoft titles. The licences are bought in
bulk, for between 2–20,000 seats. Buyers may not get exactly
the licence they would get from conventional channels
because the licence will have been bought before, by a
company now insolvent or downsizing.

Yes Telco, a Manchester-based Vodafone service provider,
became one of the first UK businesses to take advantage of
purchasing hundreds of older Microsoft Office XP licences
rather than the latest version. It made a net saving in the
region of £10,000. Some international purchasers have saved
more than €50,000.

Approximately 15 per cent of enquiries received by
Discount-Licensing.com have been from existing Microsoft
resellers as well as other IT outsourcers, according to the
company.
<snip>

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