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>>>>>>> Mark Corbelli wrote: >>>>>>>> Got a used Canon s600 and it prints, but every third line or so >>>>>>>> you can see that it tried to print a letter, but it will appear >>>>>>>> stretched out. The ends of sentences are left off, graphics you >>>>>>>> can forget about etc. It really sounded like a driver problem, >>>>>>>> but I've downloaded and installed the latest drivers from Canon >>>>>>>> on three different computers all running XP with no change in >>>>>>>> results. Any ideas would be appreciated.
>>>>>>> I have a great idea. Buy a new Canon IP4500 and use only OEM >>>>>>> ink. You should not have any problems and will get great >>>>>>> results. When on sale or with rebate you should be able to get >>>>>>> it for under $100. It will do duplex and use longer lasting ink >>>>>>> and also print faster.
>>>>>> Actually I'm a cheapskate and I don't print anything that needs >>>>>> to be fast or last the rest of my life. I had an i860 that I >>>>>> refilled for over 5 years with the original cartridges! How much >>>>>> did that save me? It finally succumbed to the dreaded "waste ink >>>>>> counter full" disease and I couldn't get it to reset. So I >>>>>> trashed it and found another Canon that still used the BCI carts >>>>>> on Craigslist for $35 that looks like it's hardly been used. With >>>>>> any luck I'll get another 5 years out of these carts!
>>>>> Don't waste your time explaining logic to the village idiot. He >>>>> can't understand it. I have saved thousands of dollars
>>>> Do not believe this lie. He spent less like you but saved nothing.
>>> More of your village idiot logic on display.
>> Your failure to understand the concept presented show the entire ng >> your faulty thinking.
> We don't expect you to realize you are an idiot. > How's your reception going in the digital camera newsgroup?
Oh there are a few morons over there that are Jerked up like you. They gotta Muttonhead, a Lamb Chop and a Monkey. And the normals drove you out.
> They think you're an idiot too in case you're too stupid to realize it.
Are you saying the scum of the earth think I am an idiot?
>>>>> from not buying Canon's OEM ink cartridges. Now watch the Village >>>>> Idiot make some stupid reply about how I haven't really saved >>>>> anything.
Ok you fascist atheist pig...which camera ng are you polluting with your lies and bullshit? Tell so I can clue them all in about who you really are ok? Best you tell me cause if you don't I'll find out and you'll have hell to pay!...LOL! Loser!
> The fukk you are! You forfeited any rights to be respected in this or > any ng you frequent a long, long time ago. > You have disrespected everyone else opinion in here from day one. > You have lied, changed others postings, posted in HTML and in all caps > when everyone has asked you not to do those things.
> You don't give a shit about anyone other than yourself. > You are an austrian fascist bigoted atheist pig. > Take my advice and get lost in all the ng's you are currently posting. > Get some medical help for your obvious personality and social problems > that you have with others and their opinions. > If you get 'cured', then you'll be welcomed back. > Otherwise, you can go fukk yourself!
Come, come, he (or should I say "it," trolls being confused on many levels) is entitled to gobbedygoop, which is its native language.
> Michael Johnson wrote: >> TJ wrote: >>> He subscribes to the "more you spend the more you save" philosophy of >>> economics. That would be the policies that have the US economy in the >>> mess it's in now, so I suppose he has plenty of company.
>> One of my favorite movies is Contact and there is a good line in it >> about government spending. It goes something like this, "The first >> rule of government spending is why buy one when you can get two for >> twice the price." In the case of our village idiot it would go >> something like this,
>> "Why pay $1 for a refill when you can pay 11X that price for an OEM >> cartridge."
> That is so dumb I cannot believe it. That is the same as saying why buy > a steak for $11 when you can buy a hot dog for $1.00.
> A person with brains will know they are not the same exact thing. > Neither is a refill when compared to an OEM cart.
I don't know where you've bought hot dogs, but they are either more (from a cart) or much less (from a supermarket) than $1 each around here. And often times, the hot dog I could buy from a cart is exactly the same as the one I could buy by the pound in a supermarket and heat myself. Not only that, but the cheap homemade sauerkraut I'd put on it at home would be so much better than that expensive commercially-made slop you get from a cart that it's pathetic.
But this is a printer group, and I freely admit that aftermarket and OEM ink are not the same. However, just as a well-maintained old Chevy will get you to the supermarket to buy your hot dogs as well as a new Rolls would, aftermarket ink will perform most printing jobs as well as OEM.
Most of the time, not always, but most of the time, good enough is indeed good enough.
>>>> He subscribes to the "more you spend the more you save" philosophy of >>>> economics. That would be the policies that have the US economy in the >>>> mess it's in now, so I suppose he has plenty of company.
>>> One of my favorite movies is Contact and there is a good line in it >>> about government spending. It goes something like this, "The first rule >>> of government spending is why buy one when you can get two for twice the >>> price." In the case of our village idiot it would go something like >>> this,
>>> "Why pay $1 for a refill when you can pay 11X that price for an OEM >>> cartridge."
>> That is so dumb I cannot believe it. That is the same as saying why buy >> a steak for $11 when you can buy a hot dog for $1.00.
>> A person with brains will know they are not the same exact thing. >> Neither is a refill when compared to an OEM cart.
> I don't know where you've bought hot dogs, but they are either more (from > a cart) or much less (from a supermarket) than $1 each around here. And > often times, the hot dog I could buy from a cart is exactly the same as > the one I could buy by the pound in a supermarket and heat myself. Not > only that, but the cheap homemade sauerkraut I'd put on it at home would > be so much better than that expensive commercially-made slop you get from > a cart that it's pathetic.
> But this is a printer group, and I freely admit that aftermarket and OEM > ink are not the same. However, just as a well-maintained old Chevy will > get you to the supermarket to buy your hot dogs as well as a new Rolls > would, aftermarket ink will perform most printing jobs as well as OEM.
> Most of the time, not always, but most of the time, good enough is indeed > good enough.
> TJ
I think it depends upon your expectations. Virtually 100% of the printing we do is for school (my wife's a teacher, plus we have three teenagers) so it's going to be used and thrown away (or recycled). Because I see no dropoff in quality and have had no maintenance issues caused by aftermarket ink, it makes perfect sense to me. And since these Canons can be rigged so you can refill the cart without ever taking it out of the printer, there's very little chance of a carpet accident (actually never had one of any kind in 6 plus years of refilling). If you look at what these older Canons are bringing on eBay, considering they are 5-6 years old compared to brand new ones, I think I'm in the majority.
>>>> He subscribes to the "more you spend the more you save" philosophy >>>> of economics. That would be the policies that have the US economy >>>> in the mess it's in now, so I suppose he has plenty of company.
>>> One of my favorite movies is Contact and there is a good line in it >>> about government spending. It goes something like this, "The first >>> rule of government spending is why buy one when you can get two for >>> twice the price." In the case of our village idiot it would go >>> something like this,
>>> "Why pay $1 for a refill when you can pay 11X that price for an OEM >>> cartridge."
>> That is so dumb I cannot believe it. That is the same as saying why >> buy a steak for $11 when you can buy a hot dog for $1.00.
>> A person with brains will know they are not the same exact thing. >> Neither is a refill when compared to an OEM cart.
> I don't know where you've bought hot dogs, but they are either more > (from a cart) or much less (from a supermarket) than $1 each around > here. And often times, the hot dog I could buy from a cart is exactly > the same as the one I could buy by the pound in a supermarket and heat > myself. Not only that, but the cheap homemade sauerkraut I'd put on it > at home would be so much better than that expensive commercially-made > slop you get from a cart that it's pathetic.
> But this is a printer group, and I freely admit that aftermarket and > OEM ink are not the same. However, just as a well-maintained old Chevy > will get you to the supermarket to buy your hot dogs as well as a new > Rolls would, aftermarket ink will perform most printing jobs as well > as OEM.
No true. If you print photos the quality of OEM ink is higher, the color better and truer and the fade resistance is greater. And for people who do not print heavily the risk of clogs and print issues are less. You do not find nearly as many people complaining about issues who use OEM ink and that group represents 10 to 15 times as many people so you would think if they were out there you would hear from them.
He subscribes to the "more you spend the more you save" philosophy of
economics. That would be the policies that have the US economy in the
mess it's in now, so I suppose he has plenty of company.
One of my favorite movies is Contact and there is a good line in it
about government spending. It goes something like this, "The first rule
of government spending is why buy one when you can get two for twice the
price." In the case of our village idiot it would go something like
this,
"Why pay $1 for a refill when you can pay 11X that price for an OEM
cartridge."
That is so dumb I cannot believe it. That is the same as saying why buy
a steak for $11 when you can buy a hot dog for $1.00.
A person with brains will know they are not the same exact thing.
Neither is a refill when compared to an OEM cart.
I don't know where you've bought hot dogs, but they are either more (from
a cart) or much less (from a supermarket) than $1 each around here. And
often times, the hot dog I could buy from a cart is exactly the same as
the one I could buy by the pound in a supermarket and heat myself. Not
only that, but the cheap homemade sauerkraut I'd put on it at home would
be so much better than that expensive commercially-made slop you get from
a cart that it's pathetic.
But this is a printer group, and I freely admit that aftermarket and OEM
ink are not the same. However, just as a well-maintained old Chevy will
get you to the supermarket to buy your hot dogs as well as a new Rolls
would, aftermarket ink will perform most printing jobs as well as OEM.
Most of the time, not always, but most of the time, good enough is indeed
good enough.
TJ
I think it depends upon your expectations. Virtually 100% of the printing we
do is for school (my wife's a teacher, plus we have three teenagers) so it's
going to be used and thrown away (or recycled). Because I see no dropoff in
quality and have had no maintenance issues caused by aftermarket ink, it
makes perfect sense to me. And since these Canons can be rigged so you can
refill the cart without ever taking it out of the printer, there's very
little chance of a carpet accident (actually never had one of any kind in 6
plus years of refilling). If you look at what these older Canons are
bringing on eBay, considering they are 5-6 years old compared to brand new
ones, I think I'm in the majority.
You are a minority. Most people who have these printer (aT LEAST 10 TO
1) used Canon ink. In your case if you just print a lot of throw aways
and want to put up with the pain then you can choose that way. If you
print photos and not everyday there is a world of difference.
>>>>> He subscribes to the "more you spend the more you save" philosophy >>>>> of economics. That would be the policies that have the US economy >>>>> in the mess it's in now, so I suppose he has plenty of company.
>>>> One of my favorite movies is Contact and there is a good line in it >>>> about government spending. It goes something like this, "The first >>>> rule of government spending is why buy one when you can get two for >>>> twice the price." In the case of our village idiot it would go >>>> something like this,
>>>> "Why pay $1 for a refill when you can pay 11X that price for an OEM >>>> cartridge."
>>> That is so dumb I cannot believe it. That is the same as saying why >>> buy a steak for $11 when you can buy a hot dog for $1.00.
>>> A person with brains will know they are not the same exact thing. >>> Neither is a refill when compared to an OEM cart.
>> I don't know where you've bought hot dogs, but they are either more >> (from a cart) or much less (from a supermarket) than $1 each around >> here. And often times, the hot dog I could buy from a cart is exactly >> the same as the one I could buy by the pound in a supermarket and heat >> myself. Not only that, but the cheap homemade sauerkraut I'd put on it >> at home would be so much better than that expensive commercially-made >> slop you get from a cart that it's pathetic.
>> But this is a printer group, and I freely admit that aftermarket and >> OEM ink are not the same. However, just as a well-maintained old Chevy >> will get you to the supermarket to buy your hot dogs as well as a new >> Rolls would, aftermarket ink will perform most printing jobs as well >> as OEM.
> No true. If you print photos the quality of OEM ink is higher, the > color better and truer and the fade resistance is greater. And for > people who do not print heavily the risk of clogs and print issues are > less. You do not find nearly as many people complaining about issues > who use OEM ink and that group represents 10 to 15 times as many people > so you would think if they were out there you would hear from them.
I'm here, and I don't see where most of the complaints posted here have anything to do with aftermarket ink. You automatically assume that any printer problem experienced by an aftermarket ink user is automatically caused by that aftermarket ink. That is a false assumption.
I stand by my statement. I said "most printing jobs." You said "If you print photos." You're comparing apples and oranges now. Most printing jobs do NOT involve "printing photos" in the sense that you mean it. You are talking about printing photos on expensive photo paper to be displayed on a wall or desk. I'm talking about just about everything else.
>>>>> He subscribes to the "more you spend the more you save" philosophy >>>>> of economics. That would be the policies that have the US economy >>>>> in the mess it's in now, so I suppose he has plenty of company.
>>>> One of my favorite movies is Contact and there is a good line in it >>>> about government spending. It goes something like this, "The first >>>> rule of government spending is why buy one when you can get two for >>>> twice the price." In the case of our village idiot it would go >>>> something like this,
>>>> "Why pay $1 for a refill when you can pay 11X that price for an OEM >>>> cartridge."
>>> That is so dumb I cannot believe it. That is the same as saying why >>> buy a steak for $11 when you can buy a hot dog for $1.00.
>>> A person with brains will know they are not the same exact thing. >>> Neither is a refill when compared to an OEM cart.
>> I don't know where you've bought hot dogs, but they are either more >> (from a cart) or much less (from a supermarket) than $1 each around >> here. And often times, the hot dog I could buy from a cart is exactly >> the same as the one I could buy by the pound in a supermarket and heat >> myself. Not only that, but the cheap homemade sauerkraut I'd put on it >> at home would be so much better than that expensive commercially-made >> slop you get from a cart that it's pathetic.
>> But this is a printer group, and I freely admit that aftermarket and >> OEM ink are not the same. However, just as a well-maintained old Chevy >> will get you to the supermarket to buy your hot dogs as well as a new >> Rolls would, aftermarket ink will perform most printing jobs as well >> as OEM.
> No true. If you print photos the quality of OEM ink is higher, the > color better and truer and the fade resistance is greater. And for > people who do not print heavily the risk of clogs and print issues are > less. You do not find nearly as many people complaining about issues > who use OEM ink and that group represents 10 to 15 times as many people > so you would think if they were out there you would hear from them.
